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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:56:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote: Multiboxers have to click. Previously CCP have stated that as long as a physical click happens it doesn't matter how many simultaneous client clicks that generates, but if a click is generated without a physical click, then it's bannable. so what you have, which is essentially an autopilot bot, is very very bannable.
If I can find the CCP quote I'll link it.
thats just a poor excuse not to ban profitable ISBoxer - they seem to ignore the fact that said physical click only happens on the main client, not on the other 19 running in background and controlled by ISbox.
Automation per definition also includes methods or tools which reduce human workload for operating machines, cars etc - thus is clearly EULA violation. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:but as long as it requires 1:1 human input rather than make use of machine-genrateed input, it doesn't qualify for the only definition that matters: the EULA one, according to which multiboxing is not a violation.
1:1 what? Its more like 1:19, otherwise isbox would have zero use for people who want to control 20 clients with 1 click. Also ist not about multiboxing but about input broadcasts which is why people use it in the first line - for automation. Like I stated before, CCP only allows it because profitable like hell not becaust its not automation. |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Uhm, yes. I'm still right. As demonstrated by every single official communication on the matter. but not for the reason of their excuses but just because they want the money.
Tippia wrote:and that argument has always been factually incorrect since it ignores both reality and every definition that matters. reality = guy cant play fleet of mining barges, gets isbox and suddenly can play a fleet of mining barges. definition of automation includes isbox pretty obviously. Which matters? I tell you what matters -> your money from 20 isboxed accounts.
Tippia wrote:If you click a button, all that happens is that you click a button. if this would be true, noone would use it. You click a button and software clicks same button in 19 other eve clients in background.
Tippia wrote:except that CCP happily foregoes profit to uphold the rule against automation. State is as much as you like, it is completely contradicted and disproven by reality. more hurfblurf in lack of arguments? |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:06:00 -
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Tippia wrote:What? Could you please rephrase that as a coherent sentence. more blabla please as you obviously got nothing better to respond.
Tippia wrote:which is proven false by the fact that CCP happily get rid of accounts that could be making them money. So how do you square that fact with your presumed reasoning? how you know? You got some statistics about banned botters? What I see multiboxed fleets everywhere, which arent banned for the only good reason: money. Because everything else would get them banned, even CCPs own EULA.
Tippia wrote:It is true, and that's why people use it: because it doesn't automate anything and requires manual input, and thus don't break the rules. no, either you are stupid or a ******. People use it because they couldnt steer their fleets without aid of automation software.
Tippia wrote: Just because you can't counter an argument doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Please try again: how do you square the very simple and much-publicised fact that they will happily jettison thousands of accounts with the presumption that they only allow multiboxing because it requires lots of accounts?
what? |

Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2014.03.25 07:32:00 -
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J'Poll wrote: 2. You think that ISBoxer is automation, which is untrue. It just copies the MANUAL input over multiple clients and thus is not automated. If said person would walk away from the keyboard, all 20+ accounts would do NOTHING.
google for "automation" if you want a definition of it. Broadcasting of input fall into definition (which CCP ignores because of money they farm from it).
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